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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:44 am 
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the real question isn't "What woud be the downside of making them all 1000mA?" The real questions is, "What are you doing with a OD-20 and CE-20?"



hehhehehe....Looks friggin awesome, and I would like the LED's. My Furman board has 3 ac outlets in it, and I use all 3. More more more! Matt makes a great point about higher voltage as well. Keith, as always. You are so 'da man.

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byoc wrote:
At first you guys were asking for the works. Now when you see how monstrous it actually is you're all saying back off a little bit. It's just a "conceptual drawing" so please continue to discect it. I wouldn't really put together a kit like that, but that was all the features that I heard being asked for.


Personally, I'd really prefer "the works". I'm one of those guys, or kids :) , thats gotta supersize everything (exept food ironically enough :D )

Maybe sell the kit as a circuitboard, but you could buy two circuitboards that locked together to make a larger power supply. I guess you'd have to supply your own enclosure though.

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What happens when you run a pedal at 18 volts instead of 9?

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depends on the pedal, all I can tell you is it gives some overdrive pedal (ex. screamer) some more high end. It opens the sound and sorta has "takes the blanket off you amp" quality to it. My whole rig is at like 14v due to a garbage power supply. But I'll live with it for now.

On a new topic, anyone know how to ground an ungrounded power supply?

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Quoteman wrote:

On a new topic, anyone know how to ground an ungrounded power supply?


Have you tried throwing it into a bathtub full of water? :shock:


(kids: don't try doing this at home. Or anywhere. Leave it to the professionals.)

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I'll +1 the smaller the better. The less space it can take up the better- hauling around huge pedalboard is a pain in the...


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robertwallace wrote:
Quoteman wrote:

On a new topic, anyone know how to ground an ungrounded power supply?


Have you tried throwing it into a bathtub full of water? :shock:


(kids: don't try doing this at home. Or anywhere. Leave it to the professionals.)

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C'mon, seriously, I'm very short on money...

And as for size, it's going under my pedalboard so as long as it's not enormous I could care less. I'm more concerned about hight than width or legnth.

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 Post subject: Separate gnds on byoc power supply?
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Keith, are you planning on having independent grounds on every output? I've been collecting parts to build something like this; I was planning on using a separate winding and rectifier and regulator circuit for each output so there would be no ground loop connection.


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I don't really know what I'm doing for sure....just kicking around ideas. I have a question for you guys now....what about the cable and plugs...the ones that connect to the pedals? All the PS's I've built in the past have had funky wiring because I can't find decent pro quality plugs. I don't want to sell you a kick ass PS kit and then supply you with some mickey mouse daisy chain.

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I was planning to use the same jacks as you use on your pedals on the PS. I bought a bunch of right angle plugs to build the power cables. I haven't tried to build a cable yet so I don't know how cheesy they are going to be.
On the gnd subject, imo it is highly desirable to isolate each pedal power supply to avoid ground loops.


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in the DIY fashion i think you should just include some right angle plugs and some 22-2 zip wire. Only thing i dont like about the normal RA dc plugs is the backs can snap off unintentionally sometimes.


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fadetowhite519 wrote:
in the DIY fashion i think you should just include some right angle plugs and some 22-2 zip wire. Only thing i dont like about the normal RA dc plugs is the backs can snap off unintentionally sometimes.


yeah...that's what I'm talking about...those plugs suck....real bad. I don't want to sell those.

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I'm with you - those plugs suck real bad! I won't use those again.

Maybe just source the power cables and include them with the kit? We're not building the 120 volt power cable, why bother with the 9 volt cables?

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Morgan wrote:
I'm with you - those plugs suck real bad! I won't use those again.

Maybe just source the power cables and include them with the kit? We're not building the 120 volt power cable, why bother with the 9 volt cables?


If you don't mind using a daisy-chain, I really like the 1-spot Multi-Plug cables. The connectors are molded-on right angle plugs. They have sell them in a lot of places, but I found a good price at SunCreek Music: 1 Spot Daisy Chain

Plus, the people running SunCreek are good folk.

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I haven't tried it yet, but it looked to me like a good glue could make the little RA plastic plugs as reliable as molded.
When I build guitar cables I fill the plug casing with hot glue; that might work with these connectors (unless the whole thing melts down....)


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keep in mind I only know enough about this stuff to be dangerous.

Switchmode. For people who want huge current draws, why not have one or two outputs that have switch-mode setups ala' the onespot. Just make sure to have all the snubbers and whatnot so the quality of the traditional rectified ac side isn't messed with (and my whole powerline, but I think for CE cert you have to put all that stuff in anyway, unless DIY has some loopholes)

This may have to be a kit that requires to set some options up for people ahead of time; say you have 6 outputs, you can have it so we can decide to have up to 2outputs switchmode and 4 standard transformer, or 6 standard transformers or 1 and 5 etc.

and have options for the transformers side..you can have all of them have the sag option or as few as one. I'm not sure how that's going to work logistically what with all the extra holes.

Panel/internal accsess for the DC voltage switch would be cool, have a little door or something, I have a feeling someone might mess with it out in the open

if you put everything together right, All you'll really have to do is just ship different things, all the boards and enclosures ,ideally, would be the same.


Power is a really personal thing, so I think it should be somewhat custom. You have an advantage over voodoo labs, since a lot of the work is done by the customer, you don't have to make a one size fits all product.

It's a great idea regardless, good luck :)


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Why do the sag on the power supply. Couldn't you just put a resistor inline on the chord for powering sag neccesary pedals. A sag chord would seem a much simpler solution.
Leave place for the 18v dc and ac outputs I want.
Here's my current (no pun intended) dilema.
On my board as it sits right now:
Byoc:
Compressor
Filter
Triboost
Mighty Mouse
Lazy Sprocket
Delay

The others:
Jt Pedals V-Trem (indespensable 12ax7 tube vibe/trem) 18v ac
Digitech Whammy One - 18v dc
Korg Tuner Pedal (9vdc)
Sampson Wireless unit

Still missing:
Morley Bad Horsie
Flanger
Maybe a chorus

I need one box to power them all. I play in a 2 guitar band and church on a regular basis. A lot of the time my job is to fill texture and find holes. I find a massive array of effects is a big part of that, so I dont feel cutting back is an option. I can assure you this will grow. So give me options and lots of amps.


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Keith,

Dont know if this is helpful or not. I'd never heard of this but someone put it up at a gear forum. Thought the DIP switches for voltage selections might be of interest to you for design consideration. Just an FYI. you may already be familiar with this box. Just throwing out ideas.

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