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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:11 pm 
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What about Josh Homme? He's the one in the band with John Paul Jones and Dave Grohl :wink:


Homme is definitely the 90's. Plus I think his music, while definitely guitar rock, wasn't really viewed as 'guitar hero' stuff by many.

QOTSA was started the same year as the stripes, 97. And they didn't get mtv recognition until the early 2000s with songs for the deaf.
I have never heard Jack White's playing viewed as guitar hero stuff either :?:

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What about Josh Homme? He's the one in the band with John Paul Jones and Dave Grohl :wink:


Homme is definitely the 90's. Plus I think his music, while definitely guitar rock, wasn't really viewed as 'guitar hero' stuff by many.

QOTSA was started the same year as the stripes, 97. And they didn't get mtv recognition until the early 2000s with songs for the deaf.
I have never heard Jack White's playing viewed as guitar hero stuff either :?:


Sorry - definitely thinking Kyuss first with Homme. Plus also probably associating him with Grohl who basically helped define the 90's.

White gets a lot of guitar hero rep - I mean the whole impetus for this thread was the 'It Might Get Loud' thread about a documentary about guitar heroes. He usually makes the top-whatever most influential guitar players by the guitar mags, etc.. I dunno - I guess I never really thought of Homme in that way, but it's just my opinion ... he definitely never failed to put huge guitar sounds in his music, that's for sure!

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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
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On the freak side I would say Buckethead. He is the closest thing to Satch, Eddie or Jimi that I have heard. Eddie wasn't a household name until 1984 which was the beginning of the end IMO. SRV wasn't a household name until the day after his copter crashed.

A lot of the greats aren't mainstream because the average person could care less about guitarists. Even Clapton wasn't that popular until Color of Money came out and his son died and he wrote tears in heaven. Yeah, he had Clapton is god for a while, but that faded.

Also, the proliferation of music via the internet means the shitpile you have to wade through to find a gold nugget has grown exponentially, not sure we will see too many massively popular guitarists unless someone really good dies young and garners a bunch of publicity.

Sorry, I am a glass is half full dude...


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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
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I could only read parts of this thread. I could not bother, not that it is not interesting. The question is mistaken IMO. But I have an opinion. Some might have said something like this, but this is my opinion: There will NEVER be another Hendrix, Beck, Clapton, Townshend, Richards... Cannot ever be! Those guys were innovators. They had the great unexplored landscape of the electric guitar with amps and stomps and the studio before them. They did it! They did it all! History have seen a LOT of guitarist surpas these in all areas if you break it down into TONE, TECHNIQUE, IMAGINATION, and whatever label you put into it.

Those guitarist were the luckiest guitarists ever! They broke new ground! IMO you have all forgotten two guitarists, that should be considered the last two that really broke new ground. It is Tom Verlaine and Richard Lloyd of Television. They had an anti-attitude to guitar-sound. They had that fuck all, lets listen to Bach contrapoint instead thing going. Pair that with punk!

And there is a lot of other great guitaists that will never reach the history books. But they might be a lot better than the official priests of the electric guitar.

My alternative list (not considering the OP, but a lot of these guitarists are active today, and some are unfortunately dead...):
Nick Drake, Joni Mitchell, Richard Thompson (don't you EVER forget the accoustic guitar!)
Tom Verlaine
Richard Loyd
Richard Thompson (again! This time as an electric guitarist!)
Lars Haavard Haugen (Gottcha! He's a Norwegian guitar ace, known from Hellbillies and his own stuff. He does mainly country, but I've known the guy since we were kids, he can do ANYTHING! Go find his stuff on Spotify or Wimp or Youtube...)
Waddy Wachtel - King of SIMPLE solos, go listen to what he does on "Looking for the next best thing" (Warren Zevon).
Ry Cooder. Can't believe he's not mentioned along with Hendrix.
David Lindley - another one...
And there are a lot more. Thank God for that!

There will never be another one of any of these guys. So who's the best from 2000 to 2012? NO idea! Lars Haavard Haugen maybe...


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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
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A few LHH tunes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgduS5xC_rA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=413_fKx7SFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_kB89PwVZQ

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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
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Prince.....


that little cat can PLAY.

Plus he's been going strong since the 80's.

<flame suit on> ziiiiiiip.

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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
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I'm not one to usually get into big opinion-based discussions like this, but overall I would say that I agree with a couple of you guys who said that the greats as we know them were big because of the mystery and the breaking of new musical/rock ground. We probably will never have anyone like that.

I too skipped through much of this thread (at least page 2 entirely), but it saddens me to hear that Jack White is thought of by some people as a guitar hero type. Admittedly, I am not a huge White Stripes fan, and believe me, no offense to anyone's opinion, but Jack White sucks ass as a guitarist. Listen to him try and play a solo. His rhythm is off and they are usually just terrible. It's kind of the same with Matt Bellamy... I like MUSE, but (and I mean this to apply to both Bellamy and White) if not for the HUGE fuzz tones (or fuzz and digital with MUSE), I truly don't think either guitarrist would be all that popular.

Has anyone mentioned Dan Auerbach from The Black Keys? That man is amazing. Style, tone... Amazing. Very creative and talented. Check out Dredg too. Mark Engles is very unique and innovative, though I wouldn't say that he is anywhere near Jimi/Clapton level good though. My favorite guitarrist for sure though.

Definitely would agree that there could never be another guitar god again though...


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Prince.....


that little cat can PLAY.

Plus he's been going strong since the 80's.

<flame suit on> ziiiiiiip.

Have you heard the Kevin Smith story about Prince? Interesting stuff, pretty funny too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy_cLJ19 ... 9882FE0380

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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
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i dont think you realize what youve done.
id say shawn lane should be in there(i think the 80s was when he was popular/alive)
guthrie govan and derek trucks for sure though
also, did anyone see the readers poll for guitarworld this year? seeing kenny wayne voted a better blues guitarist than derek trucks made me lose a little faith in my fellow guitar players. and joe bonamassa definatly shouldnt have been number 1, number 2 maybe...

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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
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i dont think you realize what youve done.
id say shawn lane should be in there(i think the 80s was when he was popular/alive)
guthrie govan and derek trucks for sure though
also, did anyone see the readers poll for guitarworld this year? seeing kenny wayne voted a better blues guitarist than derek trucks made me lose a little faith in my fellow guitar players. and joe bonamassa definatly shouldnt have been number 1, number 2 maybe...


Yikes. I don't dislike Kenny Wayne Sheppard but I'm afraid he can't hold Derek's water. I can promise you slide, no slide, electric or acoustic Derek would have him lost in 1 minute. The reverse would not happen.

Because Derek is so humbling and doesn't promote himself people are clueless.

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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
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TN completely agree. Just wanted to add that Kenny Wayne has had plenty of radio airplay and some mainstream success, and Derek hasn't.

Personally like KWS stuff better than Derek Trucks Band stuff, but not due to the quality I the playing.

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yeah derek trucks hardly moves when he plays, hes humble to say the least.
to me, kenny wayne is just a SRV knock off with worse tone.

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I like KWS a lot. And actually don't think he sounds like Stevie Ray much at all, not does it feel like to me that he's trying to. He does blues rock really well. I don't see the guitar genius side of it but I do really like what he does.

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that little cat can PLAY.

Plus he's been going strong since the 80's.

<flame suit on> ziiiiiiip.


BIG +1.

No DOUBT that mutha can PLAY.

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i know someone will have something to say about this but here it goes:
im glad kurt cobain hasnt been mentioned, he was not a good guitar player, a good song writter at best.

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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
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He also died long before 2000 :lol:

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Trey Anastasio.

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ckyvick wrote:
What about Josh Homme? He's the one in the band with John Paul Jones and Dave Grohl :wink:


+1 for Homme. I'm a huge QOTSA fan, and I happen to think that Homme is a phenominal guitarist. Quite underrated, actually. He's got a very original style, which is hard to achieve these days.

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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
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He also died long before 2000 :lol:

i got a little ahead of myself, i was refering to the original post, i think satch and tremonti were listed for the 90s

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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
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.......................... Even Clapton wasn't that popular until Color of Money came out and his son died and he wrote tears in heaven. Yeah, he had Clapton is god for a while, but that faded.



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.......................... Even Clapton wasn't that popular until Color of Money came out and his son died and he wrote tears in heaven. Yeah, he had Clapton is god for a while, but that faded.



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I thought the same thing only I can't post pics like you :mrgreen:

Clapton was hugely popular with Cream, Domino's, solo etc.. . It may have waxed and waned here or there as who can stay near the top for 40 years but that's it. Even when he was in a self imposed 3 year heroin haitus people were wishing he would come out and do stuff back in the day.

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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
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Thanks for all the input everyone, but I am sorry to say that every single one of you is completely wrong.

The one and only guitar god of the 2000s is Mark Tremonti.

There is a Paul Reed Smith $3,000 guitar named "Tremonti" - it's even spelled the same way! Coincidence? I don't think so.

Have you seen Tremonti's left pinky finger? It's not even fair to call it a "pinky" finger. I'm certain it BY ITSELF could deflect a Chuck Norris roundhouse kick. Photos of Tremonti's "pinky" finger and mine attached for your review.

End of story, end of thread. Thank you very much.

One of his better guitar solos (my opinion):
http://youtu.be/3LbrTgePROw


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 Post subject: Re: Who Is the Hendrix or Van Halen of the 2000's?
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Well, that shows how lame I am, because I'd never even heard of Mark Tremonti.

OTOH, I just googled him, realized he was the guitarist for Creed, and promptly threw up in my waste basket.

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