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 Post subject: New amp day
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:01 am 
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Gots me an Egnater Rebel 20 in a recent trade. Even though I've raved non-stop about my El Capistan delay since I got it, Rule #14 of pedal trade deals ruled the day: "If you can trade a pedal for an amp...do it!" So I got a new cool tube amp for my El Cap + $30. I'm pretty pleased with the deal. Apparently the El Cap is backordered for the next several months, so the used price on TGP is now much higher than I originally paid for it. I love TGP! :lol:

I've not had much time to run it through all the paces, but so far I'm pleased. The dirty side gets quite, well, dirty. Lots of sustain and natural compression. The clean is also fairly compressed (in a good way), at least compared to my Univalve's clean tone. I suppose that's to be expected given the difference in circuit types (push-pull vs single-ended). Still working to find the sweetest spot for the classic "verge of breakup" middle ground, but I'm sure I'll get there. I also need to test the effects loop. That's one thing I miss on my Univalve. There is plenty of clean headroom for bedroom players, studio work, and gigs with a PA. And as with most amps, louder is better to get great tones, although it does sound good at lower volumes.

After a few weeks of playing/testing, I'll post an update. :D


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 Post subject: Re: New amp day
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:04 am 
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Love it! Egnater makes some fine products, that's for sure.

But now that your El Cap is gone, I guess you'll be back to your old delay whoring ways :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: New amp day
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:08 am 
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Wait, when did I stop delay whoring? :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: New amp day
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:27 am 
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I was underwhelmed by these amps when I tried them.

Just my opinion but I'd trade that amp for an El cap anytime.


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 Post subject: Re: New amp day
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:41 am 
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Congrat's! I've never plugged into one.

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 Post subject: Re: New amp day
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:01 pm 
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Not the dirty hippy amp, for sure. Nice score.

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 Post subject: Re: New amp day
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Whohoo! Another win for the TGP abusers!!
Excellent, no manwhore fo mo delay for that fx loop eff!

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 Post subject: Re: New amp day
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I like my Egnater Tweaker, and that Rebel is really a looker :D

I would really like to upgrade to the Tweaker 40, but I bought my speakers based on the original Tweaker head, so they are only rated for 30W. :?

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I have a Tweaker 15 coming in the mail to pair with my recently acquired Pro Junior 3. The Junior really growls, and like a Deluxe, is clean only about up to 3.

But what a clean! I *love* the El-84s in it (JJs) and I put a JAN 5751 in at V1. Really sweet and LOUD. The Tweaker will give me more of a 6V6 flavor to compliment...


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 Post subject: Re: New amp day
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Awesome!! I would love a renegade some day...

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 Post subject: Re: New amp day
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Nice deal! Glad you're digging it now, looking forward to the two week review :)

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 Post subject: Re: New amp day
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culturejam wrote:
Rule #14 of pedal trade deals ruled the day: "If you can trade a pedal for an amp...do it!" So I got a new cool tube amp for my El Cap + $30. I'm pretty pleased with the deal. Apparently the El Cap is backordered for the next several months, so the used price on TGP is now much higher than I originally paid for it. I love TGP! :lol:

That's awesome. :lol:

How's the tube mix knob? Does it really let you hear how, according to the internet, "the sound of EL84's is very different from that of the 6V6. The EL84 possesses a glassy brightness whose emphasis is in frequencies higher than the bright zone of the 6V6. The EL84's dynamic character seems less resilient and when driven into distortion, higher order harmonics prevail, and an aggressive, snarling bite ensues." :lol: I hear that in reality, there is not much difference in the tube mix settings. And that perhaps references to EL84 or 6V6 sound are more suited to topology and speaker selection.

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 Post subject: Re: New amp day
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How's the tube mix knob? ..... I hear that in reality, there is not much difference in the tube mix settings. And that perhaps references to EL84 or 6V6 sound are more suited to topology and speaker selection.

My opinion, so far, is that there isn't a hell of a lot of difference. But so far I've only tested it at the extremes of the Gain knob settings. I suspect that the way they go from cleanish to breakup might be the biggest difference, but I could be wrong. I'll do some more listening and let you know what I hear.

What is interesting is that with the Tube Mix knob at 12 o'clock, the amp is louder and has a bit more headroom. I suppose having four tubes in parallel pairs gives it more oomph?

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 Post subject: Re: New amp day
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culturejam wrote:
Morgan wrote:
How's the tube mix knob? ..... I hear that in reality, there is not much difference in the tube mix settings. And that perhaps references to EL84 or 6V6 sound are more suited to topology and speaker selection.

My opinion, so far, is that there isn't a hell of a lot of difference. But so far I've only tested it at the extremes of the Gain knob settings. I suspect that the way they go from cleanish to breakup might be the biggest difference, but I could be wrong. I'll do some more listening and let you know what I hear.

What is interesting is that with the Tube Mix knob at 12 o'clock, the amp is louder and has a bit more headroom. I suppose having four tubes in parallel pairs gives it more oomph?

Pretty sure all four tubes are always in parallel in these amp.
The control uses a quad ganged pot (4 pots) to vary the signal to each tube's grid. So basically a master volume for each tube's input.

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